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        <description><![CDATA[Between the Lakes is WCMU Public Media’s weekly news podcast, bringing you the stories shaping central and northern Michigan—clearly, thoughtfully, and in under 15 minutes. Hosted by Tina Sawyer, each episode offers trusted local reporting and essential context on public policy, the environment, the courts, and more. Plus, a light trivia segment to keep you curious without adding to the noise.]]></description>
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    <title>&#x27;We&#x27;re in crisis mode&#x27;: Severe weather rocks central and northern Michigan </title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Gov. Gretchen Whitmer declared a state of emergency for nearly half the state this week after flood waters devastated communities, caused evacuations, washed out roads and put massive pressure on dams across the region.]]></description>
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    <title>Epic ice rescue leads to ICE deportation, McDonald Rivet wants Congress back in DC</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[The top stories from around central and northern Michigan for the week of April 6th.]]></description>
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    <description><![CDATA[This week, WCMU's AJ Jones discusses Saginaw's tax cap and the movement behind trying to get it removed.]]></description>
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    <title>Lyme disease cases up in parts of Northern MI, ice storm aid not guaranteed for utilities </title>
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    <description><![CDATA[On this week's Between the Lakes, host Tina Sawyer talks with a local health department official about the uptick in Lyme disease cases across parts of northern Michigan. And other top stories from across the region.]]></description>
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    <title>Historic blizzard, ice storm batter Northern Michigan</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[A major winter storm crushed northern Michigan this week, bringing blizzard conditions and heavy ice in some areas that lead to widespread power outages in sub-freezing temperatures.]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <title>One solution to Michigan&#x27;s literacy problem, Detroit-area synagogue attacker identified</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[WCMU's Tina Sawyer speaks to a Michigan non-profit seeking to boost literacy rates and we bring you the headlines of the week around central and northern Michigan.]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
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<itunes:author>Alvin (AJ) Jones</itunes:author>
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    <title>Michiganders share ice storm stories, McDonald Rivet votes &#x27;yes&#x27; to limit Trump in Iran</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[A recent storytelling event in Gaylord brought people together from across northern Michigan to recount their experiences during the 2025 ice storm that devastated the region.]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img src="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/c629d15/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3000x3000+0+0/resize/528x528!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F97%2Fef%2Ff45770744ec5b1aa3ec5ca6eec0b%2Fice-storm-pod-photo.png" alt="A heavily wooded trail in the forest, with snow scattered on everything shows fallen limbs and trees scattered on the ground."><figcaption>The North Central State Trail, which runs from Gaylord to Mackinaw City, is covered in tree debris on March 31, 2025. This trail is managed by the Top of Michigan Trails Council, but on April 4, 2025, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources "indefinitely" closed state-managed trails across 12 counties in the northern lower peninsula and eastern U.P. Debris around trails poses a public safety threat, according to Ron Olson, the DNR parks and recreation chief. "There's also the danger of what we call hangers, meaning branches that may have broken off and are hanging up against another tree that could fall down," he said.<span>(Teresa Homsi /  WCMU)</span></figcaption></figure><p>Residents from across northern Michigan recently gathered at Treetops resort in Gaylord to share their personal experiences from the 2025 ice storm. The event was hosted by six different environmental organizations and focused on how climate change is affecting Michigan communities. WCMU’s Emma George-Griffin was there and brings us some of their stories.</p><p>The U.S. House of Representatives voted this week on a resolution to limit President Trump's military campaign in Iran. U.S. Rep. Kristen McDonald Rivet, D-Bay City, spoke with WCMU shortly after her yes vote to explain her position on the conflict in the Middle East. </p><p>Also on the show, signatures are now in to propose a Michigan constitutional amendment requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote and scientists are finding tiny pieces of plastic in more and more places around the Great Lakes. New research suggests algae could be part of the solution.</p><p>And this week's brain teaser features a special delivery you'd never expect.</p><p>Like what you hear? Support local journalism by <a href="https://www.wcmu.org/donate/">making a gift to WCMU</a>.</p><p>Want an email version of this podcast? <a href="https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sl/w3eXjVX/WCMUnow">Subscribe&nbsp;</a>to the Between the Lakes newsletter, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning at 6 a.m.</p><p>Read stories from WCMU on our <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/">website</a>, and while you're there, find out <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/how-listen">how to listen</a> to your local WCMU radio station.</p><p>This podcast is produced in part by the members of NABET Local 412. This episode of edited and mixed by Rick Brewer. Our theme music comes from Gabe Schall. Mike Horace is our executive producer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
    <link>https://www.wcmu.org/podcast/between-the-lakes/2026-03-07/michiganders-share-ice-storm-stories-mcdonald-rivet-votes-yes-to-limit-trump-in-iran</link>
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<itunes:duration>700</itunes:duration>
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    <title>Whitmer&#x27;s final State of the State, US Supreme Court hears two Michigan cases</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Gov. Gretchen Whitmer delivered her final State of the State address Wednesday. She worked to sell a divided Legislature on a 2026 agenda that will help set her legacy.]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 05:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
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<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Gov. Gretchen Whitmer delivered her final State of the State address Wednesday.…]]></itunes:subtitle>
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    <description><![CDATA[Automated license plate readers have been popping up on roadsides across Michigan and public officials debate immigration enforcement tactics.]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img src="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f156647/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3000x3000+0+0/resize/528x528!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F71%2F92%2Fefddf60c4a8ca374cb594910ca50%2Fcameras-for-podcast.png" alt="Two traffic cameras at the intersection of Court St. and S. Michigan Ave. in Saginaw."><figcaption> Two traffic cameras at the intersection of Court St. and S. Michigan Ave. in Saginaw.<span>(Rick Brewer / WCMU )</span></figcaption></figure><p>Automated license plate readers have been popping up on roadsides across Michigan. They can record vital details about a vehicle to help police investigations.</p><p>Proponents of the technology say the cameras have helped bring crime rates down. But some Michiganders are concerned about what this means for their civil liberties.</p><p>Also on the show, Bay City commissioners opted to delay a vote on whether local law enforcement officers should collaborate with ICE. And two Michigan congresswomen visited the state’s largest immigrant detention center in northern Michigan this week, calling for stronger oversight of the Department of Homeland Security.</p><p>And this week's brain teaser talks about cars, cats and lights. No animals were harmed in the making of this segment.</p><p>Like what you hear? Support local journalism by <a href="https://www.wcmu.org/donate/">making a gift to WCMU</a>.</p><p>Want an email version of this podcast? <a href="https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sl/w3eXjVX/WCMUnow">Subscribe&nbsp;</a>to the Between the Lakes newsletter, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning at 6 a.m.</p><p>Read stories from WCMU on our <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/">website</a>, and while you're there, find out <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/how-listen">how to listen</a> to your local WCMU radio station.</p><p>This podcast is produced in part by the members of NABET Local 412. This episode of edited and mixed by Rick Brewer. Our theme music comes from Gabe Schall. Mike Horace is our executive producer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
    <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Automated license plate readers have been popping up on roadsides across…]]></itunes:subtitle>
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    <description><![CDATA[Val Harmon of Onekema has been a house music DJ for over 50 years, starting in Chicago club scene in the 1970s.]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <title>Bay City faces $1.6M budget hole, Benson says feds should stay out of Michigan elections </title>
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    <description><![CDATA[This week's top news stories impacting communities across central and northern Michigan.]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img src="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1e04aa1/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3000x3000+0+0/resize/528x528!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F51%2Fbe%2Fac67f2a345709e28391a547f3920%2F1.png"><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>The state House clawed back $645 million in spending in an unprecedented move in December. One of the line items in that budget was $1.6 million for Bay City. WCMU's AJ Jones breaks down what it means for Bay City's infrastructure and controversial toll bridges. </p><p>Also on the show, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson is calling on lawmakers of all stripes to speak out against President Trump's comments on the federal government taking over elections. State Attorney General Dana Nessel is telling Michiganders to know their rights when dealing with ICE. And voters in Midland, Bay and Saginaw counties selected their nominees in a pair of primary elections this week to fill an open state Senate seat. The outcome of the May special election could have major consequences in Lansing.</p><p>And this week's brain teaser talks about wind, but it has nothing to do with the weather.</p><p>Want an email version of this podcast? <a href="https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sl/w3eXjVX/WCMUnow" target="_blank">Subscribe </a>to the Between the Lakes newsletter, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning at 6 a.m. </p><p>Read stories from WCMU on our <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/" target="_blank">website</a>, and while you're there, find out <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/how-listen" target="_blank">how to listen</a> to your local WCMU radio station.</p><p>This episode of edited and mixed by Rick Brewer. Our theme music comes from Gabe Schall. Mike Horace is our executive producer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <description><![CDATA[WCMU News Director Rick Brewer joined the It's Just Politics podcast to break down the results of a pair of primary elections in the Saginaw Bay region for an open state Senate seat.]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img src="https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/0793781/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3000x3000+0+0/resize/528x528!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcd%2Faa%2F792e90d447648a91889e0d736ab6%2Funtitled-design-2.png"><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>On this bonus episode, WCMU News Director Rick Brewer joined the <a href="https://www.michiganpublic.org/podcast/its-just-politics" target="_blank"><i>It's Just Politics</i></a> podcast to walk listeners through the results of Tuesday’s primary election in mid-Michigan’s 35th Senate District, where voters are closer to filling the seat left vacant when Congresswoman Kristen McDonald Rivet headed to Washington. </p><p>The outcome of the May general election will determine whether Democrats hold control of the upper chamber or Republicans gain a 19-19 tie. The race offers an early glimpse of the issues - and campaign tactics - likely to define Michigan politics in 2026.</p><p>Want an email version of this podcast? <a href="https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/sl/w3eXjVX/WCMUnow" target="_blank">Subscribe </a>to the Between the Lakes newsletter, delivered to your inbox every Saturday morning at 6 a.m. </p><p>Read stories from WCMU on our <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/" target="_blank">website</a>, and while you're there, find out <a href="https://radio.wcmu.org/how-listen" target="_blank">how to listen</a> to your local WCMU radio station.</p><p></p><p>Our theme music comes from Gabe Schall. Mike Horace is our executive producer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
    <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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